15 April 2008

Pop Quiz

Okay I have some questions that need answered, and I turn to my reading audience for some enlightenment.

Questions:

a.) Are you allowed to get belligerent about a sporting moment/event/etc that you weren't old enough to remember watching? I just had a 23 year old blow up in the general direction of one of the Berg's TV's, using profanities to tear down the Royals when a clip of "The Call" from 1985 was shown. Do the math. He was 1. One. I (trying to be helpful) reminded him that it was ONLY Game Six when the call happened, with Cards leading 3-2. He spouted some more profanities in my general direction (still concerning the '85 Royals) and I just shook my head and walked off.

Honestly, you were ONE. There should be a statute of limitations on becoming irate about something you weren't even conscious enough to remember live, right? Right?

b.) I like a band. (Hypothetically let's call them... The Post Last Call Smartass Drunks. Or PLCSD for short.) As an outspoken advocate of this band, in all of their historical glory, retro appeal, or new hotness (take your pick)... shouldn't I have a certain basic knowledge about the band members side projects, or postmortem projects (should, Record-Gods forbid, they ever break up), or at least a working familiarity with a large percentage of their discography (say, 92% or more, given that a weird European b-side release with a ska cover of Boot Scootin' Boogie might have escaped my attention)??? I mean, if I try to make fun of a Beatles fan for a (gasp) not so great song of theirs (and by that I mean the one or two songs they ever produced that didn't go straight to #1 on every chart known to man, and a few of the lower-primates' charts, as well) and they just give me a blank stare that signifies they have never even heard OF this particular song, much less HEARD the damn song, can I hand them a "Fanship Revoked" card? Please?

c.) Is strawberry jelly/jam still an acceptable alternative to grape in the PB&J realm? (bleah)

d.) What "exclamatory" word/phrase are YOU trying to bring back? (I know Jim's answer, though his seems like a lost cause) Conversely, what slang-piece are you trying to eradicate from the face of the earth? (Once again, I know Jim's, and I for one, have made a concerted effort to reduce my number of "fo'sho"s)


This test is worth 10% of your grade, so I hope you studied, and I can't wait to hear back from all my devoted readers. Or my devoted reader. Or I'll just meditate in silence. Om...

8 comments:

graham said...

Hmm, I'm afraid I have to disagree with you on almost all accounts here friend.

A) While I understand your sentiment (in the abstract sense of understanding that some people are actually passionate about sports like baseball for some strange reason), I'm afraid that you've fallen into the trap of believing that a timeline somehow has relevance to a person's love of their team. I'll use music as an example since I just can't personally relate to the whole sports phenomena: I'm not nearly old enough to have a first hand memory of the Rolling Stones proclaiming themselves the "greatest rock band in the world" WHILE THE BEATLES WERE STILL TOGETHER AND PUTTING OUT ALBUMS, but I'm outraged all the same. Fuck the stones, they're dead to me, regardless of the one or two decent songs they may have put out during their career.

B) Nope, listening to and enjoying music has nothing to do with who the performers of the music are. If that were true, I'd have to stop listening to James Brown and a plethora of other assholes (but I love his music still). The music is what counts, not the side-projects, who played which instrument or wrote which song, or dated J. Lo. You can be a fan of a band or an artist, or you can be a fan of the music, or both; these are not mutually exclusive categories.

C) Here we almost agree. No, strawberry is not an acceptable pb&j combo, but neither is grape. In fact, grape jelly is slightly more disgusting than strawberry.

d) I'm not actively trying to bring any slang back, but I would really like to get rid of this whole "a minute" phrase. It really bothers me when people say "I haven't seen you in a minute" No, you haven't asshole...

Jay said...

Disagreements make the world go 'round...

a.)But if you were sitting in a bar, and "Gimme Shelter" comes on the jukebox, you don't start yelling profanities and flipping tables. And there aren't tangible things like yearly championship trophies that fans of teams covet. You don't care whether the bands you follow win Grammy's. In most cases, today's fans would prefer their bands not win Grammy's (i.e. Sellout)

Let me see if I can put a musical spin on my original "ageist" point to show the immaturity level I'm talking about. Hmmm..

Okay. Imagine a 17year old today, trying to tell a 50 year old San Francisco native ex-hippy, that his favorite Grateful Dead show was marred by technical sound problems and the set list didn't really do much to show off the band's talent.

Does that make sense? The 17 yr. old should pretty much just keep his mouth shut, because the 50 yr old WAS THERE, and the visceral experience makes it real to him.

b.) I re-read my post and realized I had left out a slightly crucial adjective, in regards to my point. The idea behind it was that someone who brings their "holier-than-thou" fanhood forward as some kind of expert, would then be (rightfully? is my question) able to be ridiculed. Obviously one can enjoy and appreciate music and bands with no intellectual investment. But when someone puts on the "King Fan" crown, I feel like they should have some sort of handle on the totality of the subject at hand.

c.) Really? This seems like familiar territory for some reason, though. Did we have this discussion after a MySpace Bulletin questionnaire?

d.) "...a minute" That's a good one to put the kibosh on. I know I have used that one liberally in the past, but I shall add it to my list of banned phrases. Mine would be:

bringing back: Damn Skippy. Or the Budweiser "Whasssssssup". LOL

losing: I secretly enjoy the rhyming goodbyes... "peace out, cubscout", or "peace and hair grease"... but I find them just as secretly annoying.

graham said...

A) I generally agree with that response to my response, but I'd still rather see Ben Harper win a Grammy than whatever incarnation of the Backstreet Boys exists today.

Again, I generally agree with the response you gave, but The Grateful Dead show may be a pretty bad example considering their fans recorded bootlegs of virtually every show they ever performed and yes, technical difficulties would mar the band's performance. But, I despise the Grateful Dead, so I don't really care either way.

B) Ok, now I agree. I hate the whole Hipster / I know more than everyone about the most obscure bands in the world attitude. Screw you, shut up and enjoy the music, and keep your stupid trivia to yourself, I really don't care.

C) Yes, I think we did.

"D) Damn skippy" (for whatever reason) made me think of "fuckin A" I may have to bring that one back.

graham said...

Thought of another phrase that really needs to be retired: Homeslice. My coworker says that and it drives me crazy. Really, anything with "home" needs to go away. Homeskillet, homeboy, etc... though I'm not really opposed to homey so much, maybe because it always makes me think of Homey the Clown. You remember him right?

Jay said...

Oh yeah...

and also, "I ain't one to gossip, so you didn't hear that from ME!"

And the Fly Girls... MMMmmmm.

graham said...

Ahh yes, the Fly girls. I was so in love with the blonde one.

50 foot Jay said...

A. No. Sympathetic sport rage doesn't work. Be there or be silent.

B. Absolutely. If you really like a band you commit yourself. Not fan club president commitment but you need to know the material.

C. Yes. In the same way that sometimes you go with strawberry quik instead of chocolate. Never banana though. Some things are still sacred in this world.

D. In a word...Word. It is the ubiquitous phrase of the century. The mafia has fuggitaboutit. Hip hop culture has Word. I say it like the wannabe I am.

What can we lose? Neat, Phat, You go girl, anything ending in izzle.

SEIDT said...

well jay after having read your bday post curiosity got the best of me and i continued to read and this one really intrigued me so here are my thoughts...

a)as a fan of for the most part historically mediocre to horrible sports teams (ie the chefs and mizzou) i don't really have many situations were i would be put into the shoes of the irate cards fan. superbowl 4 is about all i have to hang my hat on as a sports fan however i do not feel as if i was in anyway a part of that. it is certainly important for any sports fan to know about their teams past triumphs but i would not in anyway try to call out any packer fan about any injustice done in superbowl 1. on a sidenote stl people tend to just be annoying like that and it is usually easier if you let them just think they are gods gift to the world and ignore it...it will pass.

B)i agree here as well. if one intends to put forward that they know more about a given band than the rest of the world then they better damn well know more about that band than the rest of the world. if they do not their "king fan" title is revoked. that is why it is better to like many different bands than to be obsessed with one.

c)here i think i have to disagree. while i think i do prefer grape, strawberry is certainly an acceptable pb&j combo. have you ever tried doing both on the same sammy...its pretty fuckin' sweet.

d)it may be a product of my generation but slang comprises a fairly large portion of my vernacular so as far as slang is concerned if it is currently being used as slang lets keep using it and if its not currently being used but was at one time slang lets bring it back.

these are my thougts...if you dont like it "suck It" (a little pro wrestling slang, and yes i did the whole arm cross over the crotch and everything)